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Percy CRIDDLE

Percy CRIDDLE

Male 1844 - 1918  (73 years)

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  • Name Percy CRIDDLE 
    Birth 21 Nov 1844  London, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Christening 13 May 1845  St George, Hanover Square, London, Westminster, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    _UID 6DD60502EF934C75AAAE2578AAF596B36A02 
    Death 17 Apr 1918  St Albans, Criddle Homestead, Aweme, Manitoba, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I30692  My Genealogy
    Last Modified 28 Mar 2021 

    Father Henry (Harry) CRIDDLE 
    Mother Mary Ann ALABASTER 
    Family ID F9869  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Elise Sabina HARRER-VANE,   b. 24 Nov 1840, Freiburg im Breisgau, Baden-W Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 2 Nov 1903, South Cypress, Brandon Census Division, Manitoba, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 62 years) 
    _STAT Never Married 
    Children 
     1. Mabel Criddle VANE,   b. 1867, Lambeth, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1867, Lambeth, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 0 years)
     2. Minnie Criddle VANE,   b. 1 Oct 1868, Lambeth, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 11 Jun 1956, Kenton, Manitoba, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 87 years)
     3. Isabel Criddle VANE,   b. 29 Nov 1869, Lambeth, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 23 Aug 1952, Penticton, British Columbia, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 82 years)
     4. Edwy Criddle VANE,   b. 13 Sep 1871, Southwark, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 13 Sep 1955, Aweme, Manitoba, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 84 years)
     5. Harry Criddle VANE,   b. 25 Aug 1873, Southwark, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 26 Jul 1974, Wawanesa, Manitoba, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 100 years)
     6. Cecil (Essie) Criddle VANE,   b. 19 Apr 1875, Southwark, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 21 Jul 1962, Wawanesa, Manitoba, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 87 years)
    Family ID F9865  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 27 Mar 2021 

    Family 2 Alice NICHOL 
    Marriage 1874  London, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. Norman CRIDDLE,   b. 14 May 1875, Lambeth, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 5 Apr 1933, Brandon, Brandon Census Division, Manitoba, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 57 years)
     2. Evelyn CRIDDLE,   b. 21 Nov 1876, Lambeth, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 23 Jan 1972, North Saanich, British Columbia, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 95 years)
     3. Stuart CRIDDLE,   b. 6 Dec 1877, Lambeth, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 23 Oct 1971, North Saanich, British Columbia, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 93 years)
     4. Beatrice CRIDDLE,   b. 28 Apr 1880, Lambeth, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Yes, date unknown
     5. Maida CRIDDLE,   b. 2 May 1884   d. 21 Jul 1982 (Age 98 years)
     6. Julia CRIDDLE,   b. 19 Aug 1887, Manitoba, Canada Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1952, Manitoba, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 64 years)
     7. Talbot CRIDDLE,   b. 1890   d. 1975 (Age 85 years)
     8. Alma CRIDDLE,   b. 6 Aug 1893, South Cypress, Brandon Census Division, Manitoba, Canada Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 15 Jan 1917, South Cypress, Brandon Census Division, Manitoba, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 23 years)
    Family ID F9873  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 28 Mar 2021 

  • Notes 
    • 1871 English Census St George Parish, London, lists Elise H S Vane, Married, 30, as the wife of a retired teacher, born in Baden. Her husband is not listed but Minnie and Isabelle Vane (2 & 1) are.

      1881 English Census St George Parish, London, lists Elise Criddle, Married, 40, Head of house, Housekeeper, born in Germany. No husband listed. Children are Minnie (12), Isabel (11), Edwyn (9), Harry (6), Cecil (5).

      Apparently Percy never married Elise. When he was immigrating to Canada with is (real) wife and 4 children in 1882, he persuaded Elise to accompany them as a servant - promising farms etc for the children. Although the children had previously called themselves 'Criddle', he told them that their last name was now 'Vane'.
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      https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/Inside-the-Criddle-Vane-Saga-270487681.html
      There are two portrayals of Percy. In the Criddle version, he's a kind of Basil Fawlty of the Prairies; the stuffy, hot-headed character made famous by comedian John Cleese of Monty Python fame. In Veldhuis's version, he's a cruel and heartless chauvinist and a parenting nightmare along the lines of Joan Crawford in Mommy Dearest.

      His great granddaughter, Oriole Vane Veldhuis, says:
      ... "the spoiled Percy was already getting into trouble with women at age 16, and that may have been a reason he was sent to school in Heidelberg, Germany." However, Criddle descendants maintain Percy had merely been sent to Germany to study music under German masters. Either way, Veldhuis maintains the studies didn't go well. She could only find documents proving Percy took a single course.

      Elise's family, the Harrers (Vane is a name Percy made up for her when they immigrated to Canada, possibly taken after a family friend, Lord Harry Vane), lived kitty corner to where Percy was staying. They knew English and soon Percy was a friend of the family, and soon after that, he and Elise started to show interest in each other.

      They were engaged within two years. Percy was 18, and Elise, 22. But in Heidelberg, they needed the government's approval to marry, and the government turned them down not once, but twice, because it didn't believe Percy could support his bride.

      Percy had returned to London but continued a long-distance relationship for about four years. Then Elise became pregnant. The pregnancy changed everything.

      During her term, she moved to London, perhaps so her family wouldn't find out. Veldhuis suggests Percy may have promised to marry her to persuade her to move. From later letters from her family, it is clear the Harrers assumed she was married to Percy.

      Elise would have six children with Percy out of wedlock, the first one dying after eight months.

      Elise had a residence in London near where Percy ran a wine shop, his vocation, but they did not live together. The Criddle family maintains Percy's mother kept up a relationship with the children and likely helped them financially. By all descriptions, he was a poor businessman. He spent freely as if part of the leisure class but didn't have a talent for making or managing money.

      During the time Percy and Elise were having children together, Percy met Alice Nicol and carried on relations with the two women for several years. The philandering Percy didn't tell Alice about Elise and their five children until after the wedding. In fact, he continued conjugal relations with Elise right up until the nuptials. Elise's last child with Percy, named Cecil, was born April 19, 1875